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Brett Richards's avatar

Without delving too deeply I would quibble on the basis for your size comparison. The epicenter of the problem was subprime mortgages not mortgages so comparing the size of private credit to the size of all mortgages seem wrong. Private credit is a sliver of the business lending environment just like subprime was a sliver of the mortgage market. I believe subprime and private credit were actually pretty close in nominal size. The part I haven't dug into deeply that does seem different is the notional value of CDS's on top of the underlying debt in the subprime episode. I'm not clear we have a massive amount of those derivative liabilities in this case like we did in 2008.

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This is a pretty weak article. 10-20% of most private credit loan portfolios paying in PIK. Even Fitch, who no one would accuse of being a tough credit analyst, says that 70% of PIK payers end up in default. No mention that the vast majority of businesses receiving these loans have no hard assets...unlike true secured loans of days long gone, when credit underwriting was a thing and "first lien" meant something. These loans are nothing more than securitizations on overstated, "adjusted" cash flow that are weakening rapidly and were over-levered to begin with. I look at your article and only see 1 hard data figure posted, that 1% of insurer portfolios are non-IG private credit. First, this is blatantly wrong. Second, it is just a figure you regurgitated from Torsten Slok's daily blog...who happens to be the chief economist at a major private credit provider (Apollo). Please try looking farther afield next and do some basic reading before you put content out there. There are a multitude of resources out there, even on Substack alone, that will challenge virtually everything you have written in far more detail than what you have scribbled out.

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